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this week president obama puts syrian leader bahsar al assad on notice about the use of chemical weapons. and now we know why. pentagon sources tell nbc news that syria is preparing chemical weapons for the possible use against the military people in the form of aerial bombs. jim miklaszewski reports. >> reporter: as the fighting grows more intense and syrian rebels close in on damascus, the syrian regime has turned increasingly desperate. u.s. officials tell nbc news the syrian military loaded the precursor chemicals for sarn nerve gas into aerial bombs. that could be dropped from dozens of syrian fighter bombers. this week u.s. intelligence detected a flurry of activity at chemical weapons sites like this one. while u.s. officials confirm the precursor chemicals are loaded, they must still be mixed together to create the deadly sarin gas. the development shook the world. president obama and secretary of state hillary clinton issued strong warnings to syria's president assad that there would be serious consequences if he used chemical weapons. >> it's the point of no return. they're goi
this week president obama puts syrian leader bahsar al assad on notice about the use of chemical weapons. and now we know why. pentagon sources tell nbc news that syria is preparing chemical weapons for the possible use against the military people in the form of aerial bombs. jim miklaszewski reports. >> reporter: as the fighting grows more intense and syrian rebels close in on damascus, the syrian regime has turned increasingly desperate. u.s. officials tell nbc news the syrian military...
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today president obama returns to campaign mode taking the fiscal cliff message to detroit. yesterday the president and speaker boehner met privately at the white house, their first face-to-face meeting since they agreed last week to clear everyone else out of the negotiating room. so what happened? well, neither side revealed anything about the meetings, only saying that the lines of communication remain open. but yesterday another influential republican, senator bob corker from the senate banking commission said his party should consider the president's idea of raising tax rates on the wealthy. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. we have one house, that's it. the presidency and the senate is in the democrat's hands. a lot of people are putting forth a theory and i think it has merit where you go in and give the president the 2% increase that he's talking about, the rate increase on the top 2% and all of a sudden the shift goes back to entitlements. i ac
today president obama returns to campaign mode taking the fiscal cliff message to detroit. yesterday the president and speaker boehner met privately at the white house, their first face-to-face meeting since they agreed last week to clear everyone else out of the negotiating room. so what happened? well, neither side revealed anything about the meetings, only saying that the lines of communication remain open. but yesterday another influential republican, senator bob corker from the senate...
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. >> reporter: president obama and house speaker john boehner were behind closed doors trying to break the tax and spending stalemate that threatens to take the country over the fiscal cliff in just over three weeks. meanwhile, one by one republicans are bowing to the president's demand that takes go up for the wealthy. >> will i accept a deal? >> yes. >> we don't have a lot of cards before year end. we have one house. that's it, the presidency and the senate. it's in the democrat's hands. >> since we agree with the democrats, 98% of the american people and 80% of the bush tax cuts, i would get that off the table now so they don't worry about it. >> democrats insist taxes are going up on the rich no matter what. >> if you don't increase tax rates 2%, you won't generate enough revenue to have meaningful deficit reductions. >> republicans want big spending cuts to programs like medicare and social security. >> we don't want to be back here in another year or ten years answering the same questions. >> reporter: as talks continue on both sides of pennsylvania avenue, americans from main st
. >> reporter: president obama and house speaker john boehner were behind closed doors trying to break the tax and spending stalemate that threatens to take the country over the fiscal cliff in just over three weeks. meanwhile, one by one republicans are bowing to the president's demand that takes go up for the wealthy. >> will i accept a deal? >> yes. >> we don't have a lot of cards before year end. we have one house. that's it, the presidency and the senate. it's in...
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well, elsewhere president obama could name his choices for two top cabinet posts in the next two weeks. one of those jobs may very well go to a republican. senior administration sources say former nebraska senator chuck hagel is on the short list for defense secretary. hagel met with the president this week. he's thought to be one of four finalists on a list that includes massachusetts senator john kerry, kerry is also being mentioned as a possible successor to secretary of state hillary clinton if president obama doesn't pick u.n. ambassador susan rice. >>> elsewhere, president obama has drawn a hard line on tax increases for the wealthiest of americans. rejecting an offer that republicans claim is as good as it's going to get. tracie potts joins us with the latest on this. good morning. >> reporter: right now it's looking more likely that we could, could, go over that fiscal cliff at the end of the month because right now, negotiations here are at a stand still. president obama talks to the business round table today after telling bloomberg he absolutely won't bunch. the wealthiest a
well, elsewhere president obama could name his choices for two top cabinet posts in the next two weeks. one of those jobs may very well go to a republican. senior administration sources say former nebraska senator chuck hagel is on the short list for defense secretary. hagel met with the president this week. he's thought to be one of four finalists on a list that includes massachusetts senator john kerry, kerry is also being mentioned as a possible successor to secretary of state hillary...
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she was among the obama campaign's biggest fundraisers. >>> just weeks after winning re-election to her ninth term, missouri congress wam jwoman jo emerson is going to resign. >>> four other house republicans have been booted from committees they serve on. a gop leadership aide says they were out offed by the republican conference because "not team players." >>> it certainly wasn't the most high profile kennedy wedding, but joe kennedy iii is now a married man. the grandson of robert f. kennedy tied the not saturday in california. >>> things may be tense between senator mccain and john kerry but they were able to liten the mood as mccain joked by kerry's nomination to an obama cabinet. >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. >> you didn't hear the joke. he called him mr. secretary. it didn't take long for kerry to give as good as he got. >> tnk you very much mr. president. this is what happens when you get too losers. >> you don't see that very often. that's your morning ditch of "scrambled politics." >> along with continuing worry about the fiscal cliff, stocks fell monday after disappo
she was among the obama campaign's biggest fundraisers. >>> just weeks after winning re-election to her ninth term, missouri congress wam jwoman jo emerson is going to resign. >>> four other house republicans have been booted from committees they serve on. a gop leadership aide says they were out offed by the republican conference because "not team players." >>> it certainly wasn't the most high profile kennedy wedding, but joe kennedy iii is now a married...
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expected to announce his pick to replace her at the state department as early as this week. the white house says no decision has been made. but u.n. ambassador susan rice and john kerry are rumored to be the top choices. senator john mccain, one of rice's most outspoken republican critics has been a long time friend of kerries in the senate and there was a light moment between the two at a press conference yesterday. >> i would hope our colleagues would leap at the opportunity to do that. senator mccain? >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. >> thank you very much, mr. president. this is what happens when you get two losers up here, folks. >> meanwhile, reports say the president is considering anna wintor, the editor in chief to "vogue" to be the ambassador to the uk or france. she was the biggest bundlers raising more than $500,000 for the obama campaign. >>> that's now your top news. you know what? >> i'm trying to breathe in and absorb the last story. all right. there is a new voice joining the immigration debate with hispanic voters overwhelmingly siding with president
expected to announce his pick to replace her at the state department as early as this week. the white house says no decision has been made. but u.n. ambassador susan rice and john kerry are rumored to be the top choices. senator john mccain, one of rice's most outspoken republican critics has been a long time friend of kerries in the senate and there was a light moment between the two at a press conference yesterday. >> i would hope our colleagues would leap at the opportunity to do that....
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president obama praised this year's list which includes late-night tv legend david letterman, the iconic rock band led zeppelin and oscar winner dustin hoffman. hoffman's co-star in four movies, robert deniro, shared an only-in-hollywood moment. >> i first met dustin at a party in 1968. i was his waiter. it was an instant connection when he said to me, "how's the flounder?" >> the kennedy center honors will air on television later this month. >>> and now for a look at the national weather, we turn to nbc meteorologist bill karins with the weather channel forecast. how's the flounder? >> flaky. very flaky. did you have a good weekend? >> i did. it was great. yours? >> people out there getting tans this weekend. the calendar goes to december -- >> i'm much darker. >> nice. good morning, everyone. incredibly warm air spread across the country. everyone that's east of the rockies can thank that huge california storm system. there was actually three of them. that pushed warm pacific air across the country. it cut off all the cold air from canada. it is warm from coast on to coast, incredibly
president obama praised this year's list which includes late-night tv legend david letterman, the iconic rock band led zeppelin and oscar winner dustin hoffman. hoffman's co-star in four movies, robert deniro, shared an only-in-hollywood moment. >> i first met dustin at a party in 1968. i was his waiter. it was an instant connection when he said to me, "how's the flounder?" >> the kennedy center honors will air on television later this month. >>> and now for a...
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two weeks. according to administration officials and john kerry's name obviously is floated for two positions, secretary of defense and secretary of state. joining john kerry on the short list to replace leon panetta at the pentagon is former republican senator chuck hagel who met with president obama at the white house this week. as for hillary clinton's position at the state department, the national journal reports that president obama is, quote, genuinely conflicted over whether to pick kerry or united nations ambassador susan rice. president obama said yesterday that republican attacks against susan rice will not influence his decision. jo ari, what do you make of the chuck hagel situation with his name floating into the mix now? >> i thinkç it's a good faith efforts to take in a wide range of views. we know that president obama in his first term, obviously, went with secretary gates despite his ties to republican foreign policy. hagel is more of a progressive voice, but i'm not sure that
two weeks. according to administration officials and john kerry's name obviously is floated for two positions, secretary of defense and secretary of state. joining john kerry on the short list to replace leon panetta at the pentagon is former republican senator chuck hagel who met with president obama at the white house this week. as for hillary clinton's position at the state department, the national journal reports that president obama is, quote, genuinely conflicted over whether to pick...
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president obama on the ground in michigan right now starting the week right where he left off last week. using the public to pressure republicans in to extending tax cuts for the middle class to avert the fiscal cliff. these are some live pictures of a diamler plant outside of detroit where the president will be speaking in a couple of minutes. the president greeted by the state's republican governor about an hour ago. one day before a controversial right to work bill the white house is opposed to is signed in to law. we'll have more on that later in the show but as far as the fiscal cliff, our first read team says we are already at the end game if the goal is to get a deal passed by december 21st. now that means the president and house speaker boehner have five days max to reach an agreement. that takes us to the 15th. then the legislation has to be written by the 18th. the president is now working two strategies to get a deal done. he met with speaker boehner yesterday. that's the first face to face in nearly a month and their one on one first one since july 2011. now, the other strat
president obama on the ground in michigan right now starting the week right where he left off last week. using the public to pressure republicans in to extending tax cuts for the middle class to avert the fiscal cliff. these are some live pictures of a diamler plant outside of detroit where the president will be speaking in a couple of minutes. the president greeted by the state's republican governor about an hour ago. one day before a controversial right to work bill the white house is opposed...
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president obama was asked about that earlier this week and said he doesn't want to play the debt ceiling game anymore. that's where republicans have more leverage than then do on other matters. >> all right. senior political editor mark murray, have a great weekend, sir. >> i want to bring in congressman peter welch from vermont. good to see you again. talked to you last weekend on msnbc. at that point you told me that you thought there was a 50/50 shot we'd go off the so-called fiscal cliff. today speaker boehner said talks were going absolutely nowhere. do you want to take an opportunity to update your prediction, or are you sticking with 50/50? >> well, i'll stick with 50/50, maybe 55/45 we will go off the cliff. essentially what's happening, your report was excellent, i thought. there's a face-saving maneuver that the speaker has to find. he has to find a way to get his members to be able to do that, which they don't want to do. he knows that taxes go up on the top 2%. obama won that in the campaign. the problem that the speaker faces is his members won on a campaign platform they we
president obama was asked about that earlier this week and said he doesn't want to play the debt ceiling game anymore. that's where republicans have more leverage than then do on other matters. >> all right. senior political editor mark murray, have a great weekend, sir. >> i want to bring in congressman peter welch from vermont. good to see you again. talked to you last weekend on msnbc. at that point you told me that you thought there was a 50/50 shot we'd go off the so-called...
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let's take a look at the clip. >> the week before the storm, you were out there, president obama couldn't lead his way out of a paper bag with a fistful of money in the tank -- [ laughter ] and then right after the storm was over, you were like, this man is a leader. [ laughter ] like, doesn't that -- [ applause ] doesn't that tell you something about the game? what does that tell you about the game? >> what it tells me is that people have different skill sets at different times. that's what it tells me. >> i see. so, so, he wasn't a leader until you needed leadership. >> maybe it's until he was presented with a stark opportunity to lead. >> an opportunity. >> and of course, the governor -- >> oh, god. >> come on! >> boss legend bruce springsteen, christie, who explains he's a major fan, explains he's running with the new jersey native after nbc's hurricane sandy telethon. >> i was on stage afterwards talking to steve van zandt and max weinberg, and then all of a sudden, they were looking behind me, they moved away and stopped talking. so, i turned around. there he was. >> and there he wa
let's take a look at the clip. >> the week before the storm, you were out there, president obama couldn't lead his way out of a paper bag with a fistful of money in the tank -- [ laughter ] and then right after the storm was over, you were like, this man is a leader. [ laughter ] like, doesn't that -- [ applause ] doesn't that tell you something about the game? what does that tell you about the game? >> what it tells me is that people have different skill sets at different times....
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week and all signs point to u.n. ambassador susan rice as the top contender but republicans. >> signs of backing off their opposition whether or not she would survive a nomination fight is anybody's guess. >> don't know whether he should take on fight north. i know this. that what has happened to susan rice is unfair. >> i don't think she will be nominated. but i've told people certainly i will give her a fair hearing. i do think that the underlying issue here is people have seen her far more as a political operative and not a principal. >> jimmy williams joins me now from our d.c. bureau with more on why this fight over rice matters. so it was written in the chicago times hillary clinton preferring john kerry. hilary is not close to rice who is tough but not the friendliest person. hilary's brief comment recently that rice had done a great job was considered underwhelming and tepid. if that's true, jimmy, how does john kerry compare to her personality? >> i think what you're seeing here, this has virtually nothing t
week and all signs point to u.n. ambassador susan rice as the top contender but republicans. >> signs of backing off their opposition whether or not she would survive a nomination fight is anybody's guess. >> don't know whether he should take on fight north. i know this. that what has happened to susan rice is unfair. >> i don't think she will be nominated. but i've told people certainly i will give her a fair hearing. i do think that the underlying issue here is people have...
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to 26 weeks. they say they're willing to do this. is this the fight that the obama administration really wants to take up freshly inaugurated, freshly into its new term to try to map out big, bold leadership instead of digging these trenches down the line that are going to have pitfalls and stakes all buried in it? >> i come from the school of thought that this country has overcome a lot more than just a few extra dollars. i do believe that this economy will continue to thrive, this economy will continue to move forward. i don't believe that we're going to go into a huge, deep recession again if these bush tax cuts expire. i do believe that you can strengthen the economy if you let everything go off the cliff and come back and put in front of the american people and do a better job for the economy. there's up side either way you go. the president has got boehner in an untenable position. he doesn't have very many avenues to a victory right now but he's got a good escape, thomas. all john boehner h
to 26 weeks. they say they're willing to do this. is this the fight that the obama administration really wants to take up freshly inaugurated, freshly into its new term to try to map out big, bold leadership instead of digging these trenches down the line that are going to have pitfalls and stakes all buried in it? >> i come from the school of thought that this country has overcome a lot more than just a few extra dollars. i do believe that this economy will continue to thrive, this...
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america does not want to vote for obama. hmm, i hope this review goes better than the election predictions. joining me now, washington correspondent for news week and dana millbank, columnist for the washington post. thank you both for being here. >> hi, reverend. >> so the republicans have a blue ribbon panel. do you think they are ready to learn the lessons of this election? >> i think that you can disregard everything these guys said leading up to the election because they talk a good game and they have to have the, you know, bravado and whatnot. now, they really want to be back in power. and they've got to sit down and hammer out what's going to get them there. the problem is, the party can't decide. half of them think it's because mitt romney is too liberal and wasn't enough of a kind of d distinction from obama and half of them think he was just a lousy kacandidate for others reasons and maybe may should have gone with -- i don't know. jeb bush? part of the problem here is that the party itself can't decide what it wan
america does not want to vote for obama. hmm, i hope this review goes better than the election predictions. joining me now, washington correspondent for news week and dana millbank, columnist for the washington post. thank you both for being here. >> hi, reverend. >> so the republicans have a blue ribbon panel. do you think they are ready to learn the lessons of this election? >> i think that you can disregard everything these guys said leading up to the election because they...
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after meeting with president obama this week with his fellow governors, my next guest says a failure to reach a solution would send his state into a recession. joining me now is utah governor gary herbert, a member of the national governors association executive committee. governor, welcome. >> thank you. it's an honor to be with you. >> i'm so glad you're here. i want to get your thoughts from inside the room there in person. did president obama make the case for his plan differently than he's been making it publicly? >> well, i think he knew that we were a bipartisan group. we had republicans and democrat governors there. did not expect us to come out and support one plan or the other, which we said going in we would not do. but we were grateful that he actually asked for our advice and our input. states and governors too often have been ignored, have been kind of an afterthought. and frankly we think that if congress and washington would look to the states and the governors they would develop better policy. so we were honored to be there to give our input. >> what was the consensu
after meeting with president obama this week with his fellow governors, my next guest says a failure to reach a solution would send his state into a recession. joining me now is utah governor gary herbert, a member of the national governors association executive committee. governor, welcome. >> thank you. it's an honor to be with you. >> i'm so glad you're here. i want to get your thoughts from inside the room there in person. did president obama make the case for his plan...
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cycle, setting the stage for president obama to return the favor in 2016. if she so decides to run. remember earlier this week, she was at the save and center for middle east policy and they ran that glossy video that felt like a campaign video in which she was praised by a number of officials, including president benjamin netanyahu. the stage sbing set f that's what she decides. if you go deeper into that poll, 66% of women say she should run, so higher than the national average. that would be one of her core constituencies. those close to me tell me when she steps down she'll focus on resting. >> to be frank, though, i think she's deserved a well-deserved rest. >> reporter: absolutely. i gave birth to my daughter on may 18th, five days later, i had a massive heart attack. bayer aspirin was the first thing the emts gave me. now, i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. [ woman ] learn from my story. look this isn't my first christmas. these deals all seem great at the time... but
cycle, setting the stage for president obama to return the favor in 2016. if she so decides to run. remember earlier this week, she was at the save and center for middle east policy and they ran that glossy video that felt like a campaign video in which she was praised by a number of officials, including president benjamin netanyahu. the stage sbing set f that's what she decides. if you go deeper into that poll, 66% of women say she should run, so higher than the national average. that would be...
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of state as soon as this week. meanwhile, republicans are still arguing ambassador susan rice is unfit for the position. >> when it comes to susan rice, i can tell you as far as lindsey graham's concerned, i find great fault with what she said on the 16th of september. >> we'll get the first read for you. plus, we'll play for you the new hillary clinton tribute video that some say is paving a path for 2016. i'm only in my 60's... i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it helps pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you thousands in out-of-pocket c
of state as soon as this week. meanwhile, republicans are still arguing ambassador susan rice is unfit for the position. >> when it comes to susan rice, i can tell you as far as lindsey graham's concerned, i find great fault with what she said on the 16th of september. >> we'll get the first read for you. plus, we'll play for you the new hillary clinton tribute video that some say is paving a path for 2016. i'm only in my 60's... i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i...
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they believed that all the way to the end and the last week of the campaign and i was out on the road with him, he had these huge crowds at different events and in fact on election day he did a stop in pittsburgh to go visit his election headquarters there and saw a bunch of people up on a parking ramp right at the airport. they hadn't announced the arrival at the airport. they just showed up. they took it as an omen. they thought it was a sign that he was going to win and all the way until the networks called the race on election night that he would be the winner. >> so jonathan, what, then, does that kind of mind do in this situation? i mean, i kind of -- i guess i kind of get the crying. the world makes no sense. >> right. well, the world makes no sense when you live in this bubble where -- just imagine, remember what was happening over at fox news on election night, how they couldn't believe what the rest of the country saw happening and saw it happening for weeks, if not months, this echo chamber that they live in that they are going to win, that their ideas are right, that they
they believed that all the way to the end and the last week of the campaign and i was out on the road with him, he had these huge crowds at different events and in fact on election day he did a stop in pittsburgh to go visit his election headquarters there and saw a bunch of people up on a parking ramp right at the airport. they hadn't announced the arrival at the airport. they just showed up. they took it as an omen. they thought it was a sign that he was going to win and all the way until the...
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what is the obama administration's red line on the chemical weapons? >> i think the president announced it last september and he repeated it last week. the secretary of state has done so as well. if check cal weapons are used, this becomes a red line and becomes something as the president said a few months ago, changes his cal cue louse. i think we have been out there very clearly saying that use chemical weapons and everything is going to change in terms of the possibility of american intervention. >> we have been talking about those words. what is the u.s. willing to do? are we specifically talking act boots on the ground? >> i suspect we are not talking boots on the ground. there are probably ways to get at this without that, probably from the air. i think we are probably also coordinating closely with turkey, jordan and israel because all of those countries have a profound concern, if in fact, chemical weapons are used or control is lost. >> when we talk about the chemical weapon, there's an article that says they are skeptical that reports are acc
what is the obama administration's red line on the chemical weapons? >> i think the president announced it last september and he repeated it last week. the secretary of state has done so as well. if check cal weapons are used, this becomes a red line and becomes something as the president said a few months ago, changes his cal cue louse. i think we have been out there very clearly saying that use chemical weapons and everything is going to change in terms of the possibility of american...
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last week's survey found that 21% of americans would blame president obama and the democrats. 23% say they would blame the republicans. 52% would be annoyed with both parties equally. is it really clear at this point who would be blamed? >> i think the -- >> i'm sorry. excuse me. >> it's okay. i think members of congress bear the brunt of this, especially the house. they're going to be the odd man out. i think in the end voters, if the deal does not happen, the house will carry a lot of blame for it. >> two member numbers very imp 39.6%, 35%. the president would like 39.6%. i want both of you to take a listen to something speaker boehner said friday in response to a question about raising tax rates. take a listen. >> can you see some way that you could agree to tax rate increase and protect small businesses at the same time, maybe going with the 37% or some middle ground on -- >> there are a lot of things that are possible. to put the revenue the president seeks on the table. but none of it's going to be possible if the president insists on his position, insists on my way or the highw
last week's survey found that 21% of americans would blame president obama and the democrats. 23% say they would blame the republicans. 52% would be annoyed with both parties equally. is it really clear at this point who would be blamed? >> i think the -- >> i'm sorry. excuse me. >> it's okay. i think members of congress bear the brunt of this, especially the house. they're going to be the odd man out. i think in the end voters, if the deal does not happen, the house will...
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they've already started this week. i think all of you probably got the e-mail from stephanie cutter, the deputy campaign manager, reaching out to the millions of obama supporters, asking them to post a story about how a $2,000 tax break, which is at stake on december 31st, would help them. meanwhile, all these republican candidates progressive groups, anybody who has something up in 2014, their mouths are watering for this data. and the obama campaign for now is not saying what they're going to do with it. i think they'll wait till closer to the inauguration. louis romano reports in the story now leading "politico" that they may form a nonprofit group to maintain it. it probably won't go over in the democratic national committee. it's so valuable, they're going to keep it to support the president's agenda. and one way to do that is democratic candidates. they'll eventually get to use it, but they won't get to hold it. >> all right. very good. mike allen, thank you so much. it's always great talking to you. >>> and comi
they've already started this week. i think all of you probably got the e-mail from stephanie cutter, the deputy campaign manager, reaching out to the millions of obama supporters, asking them to post a story about how a $2,000 tax break, which is at stake on december 31st, would help them. meanwhile, all these republican candidates progressive groups, anybody who has something up in 2014, their mouths are watering for this data. and the obama campaign for now is not saying what they're going to...
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>> it's got to be obama. but in the end, you know, the most important word in all that you just read is "grease," really. i mean, you know, last week here, i made a heartfelt plea in favor of earmarks. and i think that that's how you get big deals done. you know, there are going to be politicians who are going to have to be bought the way abraham lincoln bought politicians with jobs when he got the 13th amendment passed. you know, and certainly for a long-term deal. having said that, let me also say, i'm not so sure we're going to get a long-term deal here. we may just go off the cliff and vote for some tax reductions right after january 1st. no one knows. >> joe, you're going to like this. i threw the lincoln analogy at a close aide to the president last week, and he said, you know, with this republican -- with the way politics of washington are today, there would still be slavery. that lincoln wouldn't have been able to navigate the polarization between the media, between -- it was an interesting and depres
>> it's got to be obama. but in the end, you know, the most important word in all that you just read is "grease," really. i mean, you know, last week here, i made a heartfelt plea in favor of earmarks. and i think that that's how you get big deals done. you know, there are going to be politicians who are going to have to be bought the way abraham lincoln bought politicians with jobs when he got the 13th amendment passed. you know, and certainly for a long-term deal. having said...